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# 117 <5.19> Finders and Losers
 
 
(revised 04/10/2023)
 
 


 
 
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Tentative title: Gyres and Gimbles.
This tentative title is a quote from "Jabberwocky" from a book by LEWIS CARROLL (1832 – 1898), "Through the Looking Glass". "Jabberwocky" was quoted by Julia and Richard in # 052, by the way.
 

The establishing shot of Monte Carlo — a view over the harbor, Port Hercule (shot in northeastern direction) — is stock footage from a film library.

 
JOHN McLIAM, the actor who plays Karl Beck in this episode, also portrayed commissioner Harold Witken, who presided the preliminary hearing about Jason Gioberti's death in season 1.
According to earlier script drafts, the character's name in the current episode was origianlly Martin Beck.
 
The net worth of Karl Beck Vineyards (20 acres) before the phylloxera disaster was about $ 500,000.
 
Early script drafts did not contain the scene with Richard and Jordan in his New Globe executive office, but with Richard and Cindy instead: He is furious because the plans for Terry's winery can nowhere be found. Cindy goes to her desk in the reception area and calls Jordan, who says she has no clue where she put them. At the same time, Greg is at Jordan's apartment; she called him before because she does not remember what happened the previous night. But Greg has to tell her that he does not know either since he was not with her. He realizes that Jordan has no idea what was going on and must have had a blackout. This scene was completely rewritten; in particular, the developments around Jordan's blackouts were paced more slowly over the next few episodes.
 
The picture in the reception area of Richard's New Globe office (on the wall behind Cindy's computer) is the same prop that was used in season 1 until # 012 on the landing of the stairway in the Gioberti House. Even the picture frame is still the same.
 

Harry's Hide-away Adult Motel is actually what used to be the Steele's Motel in Sherman Oaks, CA. It was located at the corner of Ventura Boulevard and Colbath Avenue, but demolished in 1988.

 

License plate number of Jordan's dark gray 1982 Jaguar XJS coupé (type XJ 27): 2DBI849.

 

The car of the couple checking into or out of Harry's Hide-away Adult Motel is a red 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa.
For LORIMAR's further use of this picture car, check out the Beyond the Show - Props - Picture Cars section.

 

Uncredited extra SHIRLEY ANTHONY appears as Dr. Lee Walkling again — this time as a guest at Chase's party.
Compare # 207 for biographical details about this minor rôle and a list of appearances throughout the series.
For details about the extra, compare # 016.

 

Uncredited extra LENNART JAKELL appears in this episode again as the distinguished Tuscany Valley gentleman — this time as a guest at Chase's party.
Compare # 227 for a list of appearances throughout the series.
For details about the extra, compare # 016.

 
The establishing shot of the border between the U.S. and Mexico — located on Interstate 5 at San Ysidro (San Diego) to Tijuana / Mexico — is stock footage from a film library. The area was rebuilt in the meantime and looks completely different nowadays.
 
The establishing shot of the city of Tijuana itself is also stock footage from a film library.
 
Early script drafts staged the scene with Angela and Greg learning the truth about Karl Beck's vineyards from Chase in the Falcon Crest Victorian Mansion sun room when Chase comes over. In the final version, this scene takes place in Chase's office in the Gioberti Estate Guest House.
 
Angela and Greg take a Concorde flight from New York to Paris to travel to Monaco quickly.
 

The forklift on the parking lot in Tijuana / Mexico is a Hyster H-Series model. This forklift is owned by the transportation department of CBS-MTM STUDIOS (now RADFORD STUDIO CENTER) and was already used in # 094 as the forklift of the Falcon Crest Winery.

 

License plate of Captain Esteben Fierro's patrol car in Tijuana / Mexico, a 1972 Chevrolet Bel Air Series 1L Sedan: Mexico 738 RHN.

 
While the establishing shot with a view of the city of Tijuana is stock footage from a film library, the gas station and the parking lot for the trucks in Tijuana / Mexico is actually the tranportation department of the CBS-MTM STUDIOS (now RADFORD STUDIO CENTER): It is the same place that was used for the scene with Robin at the gas station in # 113; compare there for the frequent use of this place.
 

The IP Trucking truck at the parking lot in Tijuana / Mexico is a yellow Peterbilt 352.
It is one of several identical studio trucks (seen before in # 102 and 113; compare there) carrying production equipment to the set.

 
Mrs. Felton's conversation about Joseph's behavior in preschool was scripted with Cole in the Agretti Residence in early drafts (instead of with Melissa as in the final version).
 
Mistake: The shape of the plug and wall outlet at Peter's château is wrong: They are in the typical U.S.-like shape (flat plug contacts; picture of left outlet) although the scene plays in Monaco where the plug and plug-in would have to be in the typical shape of continental Europe (cylindrical plug contacts; right photo). This is, of course, caused by the use of a U.S. filming location (compare # 116).
 

Product placement: In Jordan's apartment, there is a bottle of Perrier-Jouët Champagne (Fleur de Champagne) on the table.

 
Early script drafts suggested that Angela and Greg be escorted to the Stavros Château by French flics, who would then investigate the Philippe Hubbert case. This idea was dropped in rewrites. French police would have made no sense at all because they have no jurisdiction in Monaco, a sovereign state.
 

License plate of Angela and Greg's black 1984 Peugeot 505 rental car: Monaco P2584 — the same number as on Philippe's blue-gray Mercedes-Benz S-class in the previous episode. Prop master's negligence!

 
Mistake: Shortly before Peter and the others leave his Château to go back to the Tuscany Valley, both of his arms are at his sides in his close-up. In the subsequent far shot, however, his right hand is holding Angela's left arm.
This is a mistake caused by the particular close-up filming technique — check # 001 (Chase and Maggie at the Gioberti Family Cemetery) for details.
 
Early script drafts suggested that, before fleeing from the Agretti Residence, Joseph wet his bed. This idea was dropped in rewrites.
 
When Joseph leaves the Agretti property to run away, it seems that he is running through an average neighborhood of middle-class homes rather than through the Wine Country! The fence and door to the Agretti estate seem to be rather inappropriate for the property.
As far as the filming site is concerned, this scene is not shot at any of the real places used as the Agretti property. It is just a prop fence installed behind office building 5 on the backlot of CBS-MTM STUDIOS (now RADFORD STUDIO CENTER). The very same prop fence, by the way, will be used as the fence around the Gioberti Family Cemetery for seasons 6 and 7 (beginning in # 147; compare there).
LORIMAR's original blueprints of this set and many others are available for DFCF members in the Show – Production Office – Filming Locations – Movie Studios – Exterior Sets section.
 

The first name of the actor playing Esteban Fierro, CÁSTULO GUERRA, is misspelled in the end credits: The acute accent on the "A" of "CÁSTULO" is missing.

 
 

 
 
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